by crs7861 Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:25 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Most shooters use it in varying capacities from 200 yards or less. It is a versatile chambering, capable of accepting a wide range of .30-caliber projectiles. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. 7. On some guns, the short case can simply snap out from under the extractor if using a constant tension spring type ejector. AAC 7.62 Suppressor , Crimp is most important as heavy bullets want to move on recoil in the mag and will cause vertical stringing. In my 16.5, X95 Sierra 220 grain RN with 11.2 grains of H110 WILL NOT cycle. IMR propellants have long been used to manufacture US military service ammunition, such as .30-06 M2 Ball (IMR 4895) or 7.62mm NATO M61 AP (IMR 4475). A critical marksmanship skill that is easy to overlook. We are engineers, reloading enthusiasts and operate one of the most powerful ballistics calculators. New customer? Winchester 296 . Screw JD Jones who sat on his product and refused to share his creation after earning millions. The 300 Blackout's .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem round's. So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. Required fields are marked *. Ordered 1:7 barrel to another gun, used same loads in exactly same conditions, no issues. 28:21. % H110/W296 is a great powder for the 300 AAC Blackout however I have found in both of our uppers that it is not a good powder for subsonic loads. Duane Siercks, Ballistic Technician. by bangbangping Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:30 pm, Post My Start load was 16.5 grains and showed no pressure. Hodgdon CFE-BLK was designed to provide that level of consistency and performance in the .300 AAC Blackout cartridge, particularly when making subsonic loads. Never seen that with 1:7 rifling twist. A crowd favorite for pig hunting, deer hunting and general subsonic fun with silencers, it remains a strong choice for many shooters. There may be rate exceptions but your in for a lot of frustration if you go that route. Carbine length gas tube. This will not be for specific loads, although some may be listed, but will be broken down for supersonic powders, subsonic powders, powders that work for both, as well subsonic powders for bolt action and single shot, and may be broken down more as things progress. If youre only feeding a bolt-action rifle or only slow-firing an AR-15, then a single-stage press, such an RCBS Rock Chucker, will work. Bullets for the .300 Blackout are where things can also get interesting. or 5.56 NATO chamber. Copyright Ammotogo.com 2023 All Rights Reserved. These seemingly small differences are significant. It isnt hard to save yourself roughly a third of the cost of a box if youre used to buying quality ammunition. I know some may say to check every fifth, or tenth, or whatever number cartridge. They are constantly asking about powders. Highly recommended, I reload for my 300 Blackout very clean burning powder and accurate, great for .357, .41, and .44 magnum pistols. Winchester continued to refine firearm designs with inventors Benjamin Tyler Henry and Nelson King, and on May 22,1866 the Winchester Repeating Arms Company was born. I worked up a load and settled at 9.8gr of 296 which turns out to be an exact load listed by Winchester on their load data website. The second of the two tools I find indispensible is a good set of calipers. I was rather surprised that I received an request to review Win 296 powder. Converting an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout is as simple as swapping its barrel. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Winchester%20Powders%20SD. Vol. The 300 Blackouts recoil is not significantly different from the 5.5645, and its price isnt prohibitively higher. My Hornady 10th edition manual doesn't include it either. There are a handful of solid reloading manuals out there from Speer, Hornady, Sierra, and Barnes, to name a few. Click here to download Sierra Bullets 300 AAC Blackout Load Data for the 5th Edition Manual. A typical 125-grain bullet for supersonic loads, such as a Sierra MatchKing 2121, has an overall length of approximately 1.18. Some of the other guys may back me up on this, I haven't found any supersonic loads that don't deliver at least one inch groups in the Blackout but the subs are a different story. I went back and read my notes. The Rainier Ballistics bullets come in a wedge or a hollowpoint offering. Hodgdon produced the load data below using a 16 barrel with a 1:8 twist rate, Hornady cases with a trim length of 1.363, and Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle Magnum primers. 01-26-2013, 07:53 AM #9 bmiller Boolit Buddy I'm setting up to start loading 300 Blackout. At 2.247 (with very slight variation on the press) fed find even with loading 30 rounds into a Gen 2 PMAG for me. Subsonic 300 Blackout. Cycles better than anything. --2195 fps. I plan to build a bolt action with a 16.5 barrel and will use projectiles between 180 220 gr., so not sure if I should go with the 1-8 or get a 1-7 barrel blank made. The cartridge shares case-head dimensions and body taper with the .223 Remington. If you are planning to reuse your brass, and you should, you will probably want to clean it. RL-7 seems to work somewhat with subsonic loads in Carbine (which will work for pistol) gas systems with maybe a few bolt hold open (BHO) issues but that may not bother too many. Running a rifle like this suppressed would be a hoot. Supersonic loads with lighter bullets are suitable for hunting and offer ballistics equivalent to .30-30 Winchester or 7.62x39mm. Take your pick. Find load data for Winchester 296 propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder". <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 792 612] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> At worst, it puts you at risk of extreme and life-threatening overpressure. The ability to shoot a wide range of bullets is a mixed blessing. The case gauge is to be used to check every loaded piece of ammunition. These are powders that are typically marketed to the magnum pistol crowd, not the rifle folks. Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. Digital calipers are typically cheaper than equivalent-quality dial calipers. Such loads tend to deliver more consistent performance, resulting in fewer muzzle velocity variations between each shot. This is the best group achieved with the 300 BLK and 135 SMK at 100 yards. The CCI 400s are more than capable of getting a full burn in a 300 BO, and pressure issues are really very minimal in 300 BO because it really is a relatively low pressure load. It provides similar effectiveness to the 7.6239 or the slightly more powerful 30-30 cartridges except works in the more up-to-date AR15 platform. East Central. 300 AAC BLACKOUT (Subsonic Loads) Barrel: 16" Twist: 1-10" Primer: WIN WSR Bullet Diameter: 0.308" Case: REM Max Case Length: 1.368" Trim Length: 1.358" Accurate 1680 Bullet weight: 230 grains. Feeds well in my Hornady progressive press. Selected this powder based on recommendations that it was good for .410 reloading. The 300 Blackout would never see mainstream military use, although it became popular in the civilian shooter market. Has N120 been discontinued? The .300 Blackout is an intermediate rifle cartridge, just like 5.56mm NATO and 7.62x39mm. Vortex to take over customer service and support for the app. : Vihtavuori 100 gr HPCE / OTCE To be able to use the full range of Shopware 6, we recommend activating Javascript in your browser. Early on, the claimed goal was to have ammunition prices on par with the inexpensive .223 Rem. I like my custom 300 BLK. As mentioned, it should NOT be reduced. The velocities cited for the BLK are asthmatic. Pingback: NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data - AK Arms, Pingback: NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data | Firearms Life, They should. 180 grain rainier wedges cycled with 11ish grains of IMR4198 out of my PSA 10.5in suppressed with Syrac Ordinance adjustable gas block. However, it is listed in the 2017 and later printings. Punching it into quickload shows a 64% case fill, and pressures estimated in the 22K range. Thank you. Hand load data for reloading .300Blk using projectiles from 110 grains to 230 grains with appropriate smokeless powders from Hodgdon, IMR & Winchester. If you need greater amounts of ammo, you may want to look at a turret or progressive press. These dimensions make caliber conversions of firearms from 5.56/.223 to .300 Blackout relatively easy, only needing a barrel replacement. Examining the table above, note the wide range of accuracy, velocity and standard deviation achieved with the different loads. Most accurate and functional: 10.0gr AA1680, WSPM @ 2.180 OAL - 1,025 fps. Scroll right to see energy, drop and coefficient data. H110 is the spherical powder that screams "no wimps, please!", delivering top velocities with great accuracy in 44 Magnum, 454 Casull, 475 Linebaugh and the 460 and 500 S&W magnums. To reload your own .300 Blackout, there are some must-have tools needed to make high-quality handloads.Before you embark on this, assuming you havent already, you should probably find a reloading manual and get familiar with the process of reloading your own ammunition as well as finding the load data youre going to need. The 300 Blackout is frequently available with 200 and 220 grain bullets. Powders that have been tested and tried by others. The latter has nearly twice the propellant, and is therefore better able to fell very distant game. Works good for 357 mag, achieves expected 1200+ fps. Rounds were fed from a AICS style 223 magazine from Accurate Mag. Reviews can only be submitted while being logged in. The 300 Blackouts sleeker bullet has a higher. In fact hide all tools you value from such people.At some point in the .300-Blackout reloading process, youre going to need to be able to weigh your powder charges. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); If you guys had bothered to ask people what powder they would like to see lil gun would definitely be on that list. The two key features that make the 300 BLK excellent for the AR platform, make it difficult to work with ina bolt action rifle; a short case and use of both super and subsonic bullets. A better solution to this problem is to use the .300 Blackout-specific magazines made by D&H Tactical and Magpul.A couplenice-to-have items that are not necessarily required for reloading .300 blackout are a brass tumbler and brass separator. 10 Best Handguns for Beginners and Home Defense, The Best Concealed Carry Holsters in 2022, Best Shotgun Mini Shells: Birdshot, Buckshot & Slugs, 8 Best AR-15 Ammo for Self Defense & Range, 5 Best Places to Buy Cheap 50 Cal BMG Ammo Online, 17.4-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,885 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,025 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 38,700 psi, 19.4-grain charge (compressed) Muzzle velocity: 2,062 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,227 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 49,000 psi, 15.6-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1683 ft/s Muzzle energy: 943 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 34,500 psi, 17.8-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,899 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,201 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 48,700 psi, 10.4-grain charge (compressed) Muzzle velocity: 1,056 ft/s Muzzle energy: 470 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 29,100 psi, 10.1-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,044 ft/s Muzzle energy: 532 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 26,700 psi, 19.0-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,866 ft/s Muzzle energy: 967 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 23,700 psi, 20.0-grain charge (compressed) Muzzle velocity: 1,945 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,050 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 26,500 psi, 19.0-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,895 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,077 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 24,600 psi, 22.5-grain charge (compressed) Muzzle velocity: 2,090 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,310 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 37,000 psi, 11.6-grain charge (compressed) Muzzle velocity: 1,041 ft/s Muzzle energy: 501 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 13,400 psi, 11.3-grain charge (compressed) Muzzle velocity: 1,045 ft/s Muzzle energy: 558 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 20,000 psi, 19.5-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,877 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,174 ft-lbf, 21.7-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 2,057 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,410 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 54,564 psi, 10.9-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,089 ft/s Muzzle energy: 553 ft-lbf, 18.4-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 2,191 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,173 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 38,900 psi, 21.7-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 2,286 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,277 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 48,400 psi, 15.7-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 1,921 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,024 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 32,400 psi, 18.5-grain charge (compressed) Muzzle velocity: 2,205 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,350 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 52,500 psi, 17.4-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 2,182 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,163 ft-lbf, 19.3-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 2,362 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,363 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 54,472 psi, 17.5-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 2,182 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,322 ft-lbf, 19.4-grain charge Muzzle velocity: 2,358 ft/s Muzzle energy: 1,544 ft-lbf Chamber pressure: 54,293 psi, Reducing copper fouling in the barrel even after high volumes of fire. Please help us to improve and report any suggestions via our contact form. If you choose to load subsonic ammo for an AR-15, some bullet ogives can interfere with first rib in the standard AR magazine, causing the ammo to bind and not feed correctly. Id probably use one if I had one.As far as powder goes, youll need to find something appropriate for the loads youre intending to make. Such large projectiles convey a subsonic muzzle velocity that is accompanied by a quiet report. load data. velocities averaging 1,040fps in most 16" guns using the 194gr ME bullet, Federal small rifle primer, and 2.200" COL: Powders For the 300 blk. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. 5-2556 Review The needs of the various shooting disciplines differ greatly. More about this powder: Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. 2 0 obj The following has published data for both 220gr and 125 gr bullets for the 300 blackout Winchester 296, IMR 4227, H110, and Lil' gun. I am confident that it would also be well suited to .454 Casull and other strong calibers. 220 g round nose / 9.9 g H110 cycles 8.5 and 16 barrels no issues. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. If you wish to run the 235gr Lee supersonic it will be fine but subsonic you should choose a different powder. When it comes to recoil energy, assuming you're using an 8 pound rifle, the Blackout hits you less with 4.3 foot-pounds compared to the AK's 6.34 foot-pounds. The design of the cartridge itself is a bit of an issue as well. I have complete faith in my Lord. Ive read people just up the charge of 1680 but it doesnt seem that great and want to keep that for my subs. Although they are more recently developed cartridges, lots of people love lil' gun in 460 Magnum and in the rifle cartridges 300 Blackout and 450 Bushmaster. Although functionally identical to the 300 Whisper, the 300 AAC Blackout is its own SAAMI standardized cartridge. Tipped MatchKing (TMK) REVIEW with IMR 4064, Remington Model Seven (Model 7) Versus The Model 700, Reloading for the Ruger Precision Rifle (RPR) 6.5 Creedmoor, Vang Comp Systems Ghost Ring Sight Installation, DVD Review: Bill Rogers Reactive Pistol Shooting, 223 Remington Load Development: 52, 55, 69 HPBT, Varget and the Ruger American Rifle, Tuffy Security Products Heavy Duty Truck Bed Security Drawer Review, Remington 870 Tritium Rifle Sight Installation, USMC M40A5 Build- Part 1: Gathering the Parts, Re-chambering a barrel: 243 Winchester to 647 Lapua. 1 MOA. Most of these loads are around sixteen grains so I guess they have similar burning rates. One of the benchrest guys I know asked how I liked my 300 BLK rifle. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. Oal 2.260 8.7 grains. M80 ball projectiles with about 16.5 gr. W296 is more than similar, it IS H110. The fast burn rate makes it ideal for use in subsonic loads, producing enough pressure to cycle the action even when pushing the heaviest bullets out of the muzzle. works like a charm. Shot about 300 this weekend. Testing both .308 versions of the Speer Gold Dot in 300 Blackout. Caution is warranted here. I'm loading .300 Blackout with 230gr bullets. This cartridge accepts 0.308 bullets, making it a true .30-caliber cartridge for which a wide selection of projectiles ranging from 80 to 250 grains is available. The following are loads that Lehigh Defense recommends for the 194gr ME bullet. Links to published Data added. Winchester 296 is also recommended for 410-bore AA loads. and 8 lb. It is quiet enough to allow a shooter to fire it without hearing protection. Rainier Ballistics has introduced plated 180-grain bullets for subsonic use only. To save a bunch of questions, you may want to add W296 next to H110, with a note that they are the same powder. I dont recommend deviating from this for safety reasons. Runs with or without a suppressor. February 15, 2022. <> The Best Self Defense Ammo Ballistic Testing, The 300 AAC Blackout delivers ballistic performance comparable to 7.6239, yet possesses a base diameter that optimizes functionality in an AR-type platform. Winchester 231 is way too fast to be used for the 300 BO. The gun doesnt move, there is even less recoil than an AR because you dont have the mass of the bolt carrier reciprocating in the rifle. A look at 300 Blackout ballistics including velocity, energy and drop data for some of the most popular loads among American shooters. The part is free, you are just responsible for any applicable taxes and Shipping/Handling. Does Lee offer a Powder Thru Expanding Die for the 300 AAC Blackout. With the opening of the American West to settlement and the ongoing military conflicts in Europe and the Near East, the demand for Winchester firearms and ammunition remained strong. It is an effective way to obtain ammunition for lower prices than equivalent factory ammo. 125 gr. I plan on doing more work with it and reporting back in the future. We are currently populating the cartridge drop-down menu with updated cartridge renderings, new propellants and bullets, and links to complimentary product pages. Powders that clearly work and have been tested thoroughly be AAC. (296 and H110 are verified the exact same powder, just marketed under two different brand names.) <>>> I use it for my 220gr subsonic 300 blk loads. gallantbullets.com May 3, 2020 #22 Pgohil Well Known Rokslider. Most data I have seen specifies small-rifle magnum primers.At some point, you may want to know how fast your .300 Blackout bullets are actually going. Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Thats a lot of work already done that I only need to tweak for my rifle, however when I chrono these loads Sierra is pretty much dead on! Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, 224 Valkyrie Handloading: Working With Different Barrel Twist Rates, SHOT Show 2018: Daniel Defense V7P AR Pistol, Four Improved AR-15 Trigger Sets Under $100, First Look: B&T USA SPR300 PRO in .300 BLK, New: Magpul Enhanced Selector Kit For AR-Pattern Firearms | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, First Look: Bersa BAR AR-15 | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Handloading The .223 Rem. As Im sure you noticed, some powders handle a fairly wide variety of bullet weights. A balance-beam scale used for measuring powder charges. Serving as optimal powders for their intended cartridges. Consult appropriate load manuals prior to developing your own handloads. It tends to be the most accurate powder in those two rifles cartridges.
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